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innerslytherin ([personal profile] innerslytherin) wrote2008-11-13 02:06 pm

Keep your bodily functions to yourself, please.

One of the women in AP is waiting for word from her son, whose wife is having their first kid. I get that she's excited, I do. But for the love of God, either take a vacation day and go home, or shut up and work.

And please, please, PLEASE, stop telling birth stories! Okay, there is a REASON I am child-free, and I am severely grossed out when you talk about the process of squeezing a bloody human body from between your legs. If there were such a thing as a neutral gender, I would be it, that's how NON-maternal I am. So please. SHUT UP.

I'm not saying you should not have kids. But I am saying you should not subject me to the process, just like you wouldn't subject me to the process of having a poop. And yes, this is my semi-unpopular opinion on breast-feeding. That's great that you do it. Do NOT do it in front of me. I get that it's natural. So is farting. Would you like me to fart on you? Would you expose your breast to me in any other public setting? No. So don't show it to me. I don't want to see it.

Grrrrr. 1630 really can't come quickly enough today. But I hope the silly kid is born today or else I'll hear about it all day tomorrow, too.

[identity profile] emiv.livejournal.com 2008-11-13 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
The workplace is no place for graphic gynecological discussions. Period. Fine, be excited, but keep it relatively to yourself.

And please, please, PLEASE, stop telling birth stories!

Sing it, sister. It is not just you, or just those who choose to be childfree; personally I am so tried of pregnancy/birthing/breastfeeding talk I could spit. In the last three and a half years, my three sisters-in-laws have had a grand total of six babies, and from that first wretched pregnancy onward, pregnancy/birthing/breastfeeding are their favorite and ever-constant topics of discussion, much to my chagrin. I am relatively newly married and in my early twenties—and I do not plan on having any children for several years—but somehow they do not get the fact that I really do not care for the ‘baby talk’. (They also forget that, though I am younger by far, I am technically more educated in human biology and psychology than they are and have known for years upon years the more technical aspects of childbirth.) I love my nieces and nephews to pieces (I also especially love the ability to give the smelly and screaming ones back!) but I do not need to know the gory details of their arrival.

As far as breast-feeding goes, I semi-agree with you. I think breast-feeding in public is OK, especially since sometimes, as I’ve witnessed firsthand, it is a true necessity, but I know for a fact that it is really easy to keep from exposing yourself while breastfeeding. Extreme easy. So if you are seeing boob, the person is probably being lazy and/or an ass.

I'm not saying you should not have kids. But I am saying you should not subject me to the process

Exactly. People forget that, as wonderful and special as having a child is to its parents, babies are born every second of every day, and it is likely that no one else really gives a damn.

[identity profile] dragon-smoke.livejournal.com 2008-11-13 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I couldn't agree more. I think logically breastfeeding is natural and should be done if the mother is willing and able, but to expect every one around you to go "Awww, look at the beautiful natural process happening Right. In. Front. Of. My. Eyes!" when any other day of the week showing your breastages in public would get you arrested, well, it ticks me off that it is assumed we will all melt at the thought of motherhood and not get freaked out that OMG nipplesucking is happening right there.

Sorry, you started a rant because I was reading you lady. Like a good paperback novel. :-)

And the birth stories? Oh no, keep those way the heck out of my earshot. My first baby shower, which I really hoped would be my last, found me as the only non-mom or happily-planning-to-be-a-mommy-someday in a group of woman cheerfully telling the most horrible, bloody, gory details of childbirth I had ever heard. These are the kind of women that would get offended if I mentioned the cool special effects of the latest zombie movie I have seen, but they had no problem springing the nasty definition and details of episiotomies on my unsuspecting and totally unprepared ears. By the end, whenever some simpering maternal barbie would grin at me and ask when I was planning on having kids, I was very blunt and just said "Never, thanks to all of you."
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[identity profile] rilee16.livejournal.com 2008-11-13 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
but they had no problem springing the nasty definition and details of episiotomies on my unsuspecting and totally unprepared ears.

Ahh, and in my experience they will go on and on in excruciating detail, weirdly cheerful about it, and have this bizarre need to not believe you if you mention the fact that a lot of episiotomies aren't, you know, actually necessary, and tend to heal worse/be more painful/take longer to heal than if they'd actually torn.

Although I've gotta say, breastfeeding in public? I'm totally cool with. I mean, it's a little weird because I live in the US, a western country, where breasts have been completely turned into just a sexual thing, to bring a man sexual pleasure by our media and culture (which pisses me off), so seeing a boob performing its actual purpose pleases me mightily, but makes it difficult to know how to act. I wanna show respect to the woman doing it and not make her think I'm some freak getting kicks off of looking at her boob when I just wanted to look at the cute baby.

[identity profile] librarygal.livejournal.com 2008-11-14 02:21 pm (UTC)(link)
"Babies like having blankets over them"

Hahahaha, uh, no. Over their bodies sure, but there is no person on earth who likes to have a blanket over their head. How'd you like to eat with a blanket over your head when it's 80 degrees out? ;)

/me goes and shuts up now :D

(For the record, I am like the most modest person on the planet, but breastfeeding in public does not lend itself to modesty as soon as the baby is more than say 1 month old.)

[identity profile] dragon-smoke.livejournal.com 2008-11-14 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
but makes it difficult to know how to act.

Yes. This. 100%.

I do not think it would be a big deal, duh, if we were in a body accepting society and not one in which breasts = SEX OMG!

I also do not think they should have to feed their babies in a dirty public restroom. That's just gross. But covering up is preferred to me, over the blatant attitude "I'm a mommy now, I can do whatever I want" sense of entitlement some ladies seem to get at the same time they lose all sense of modesty.

[identity profile] dragon-smoke.livejournal.com 2008-11-14 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
I love this! This baby story, I must say, was very enjoyable. I have a few like that of my own, and some even involve vomit if you want to get into the really gory details. But most involve mice. LOL.

But that diaper thing? Wow. I have never, ever heard of that. Just...wow. I must have missed all the trippy little games at the one I went to. The only other one I can remember attending was cool and I was happy to go because it was close friends and a very risky pregnancy. They waited until the babies were out of the NICU and home before inviting everyone (men and women) over for a "healthy happy babies" celebration.

But I still never held the babies.
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[identity profile] ashkitty.livejournal.com 2008-11-13 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
OH MY GOD YES. The women at my old work liked to tell birth stories too. I made traumatised noises at one point. They laughed at me (not in a mean way though) but they did stop. ;)
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[personal profile] lordhellebore 2008-11-14 10:34 am (UTC)(link)
Bleh, even as someone having experienced it, I'd rather not hear birth stories. They're not nice :/

Edit: but breastfeeding in public - um. Sure, you don't have to let it all hang out, but for example covering the child and everything with something, maybe even in summer? No. I'd say people who cannot take it to see a baby eat should look away.